Do I hate Islam and Muslims?
by Lewis Loflin
The following was left on my guestbook:
Why must the author of this site view us Muslims with such hatred instead of accepting us as brothers? We are closer to you than pretty much any religion out there, possibly more so than Christianity.
Before I get to my visitor, I have to ask, what is wrong with the above picture? I watched this "Muslim" hate fest on television. They say they are Muslims. They look and dress like Muslims. The commentator asked where were the British police, this was a clear violation of their so-called "hate laws." They did arrest one person, for protesting against this hateful display, but refused to apply that same law equally to obvious law breakers.
Lou Dobbs Tonight was the only news program that even showed this as far as I know. I displayed a series of these pictures and related news articles on my page showing polls (Pew which I double checked) showing sizable numbers (but a minority) of Muslims supported or refused to condemn the use of force/terror against non-Muslims. See Pictures and News from Londonistan.
A Muslim from the UK recently contacted me, claiming what I'm putting on the web constitutes propaganda, etc. He claims 99% of Muslims are not like the above, yet an independent and recognized polling organization directly disputes his claim. Who do I believe? Does posting something I saw myself and claims I verified mean I hate Muslims? No I don't hate Muslims, the above picture does not represent most Muslims.
The real criminal not seen in these pictures is the British government, the American government, and the leaders of that stupid European Union. They make so-called "hate crime" laws not to combat hate, but to use selectively to silence critics. Their policy is to dismantle and deconstruct Western culture and our national borders.
They want to impose a multicultural socialist world state, something they can't win at a ballot box. They want a "world" identity, not an American, British, or French identity. Mass immigration and efforts to prevent their assimilation and radicalize them are part of this effort. Most Muslims immigrate not commit "jihad," but to escape poverty, war, have a better life. They are pawns in an internal power struggle in the West.
Have no doubts what they want in the end for Muslims: they want a Muslim culture confined into third-world Muslim ghettos, they do not want Allah and his Prophet. They want the same atheism and socialism they want with everyone else. They want groups they believe they can control and are left dependant and divided from the rest of the citizens. This will also keep them from truly benefiting fully in their new society and will artificially keep the whole population divided.
This is who my anger is at, not at Muslims. If it seems that way, then I apologize and will make efforts to make that more clear. But I do not apologize for being an American. And I do not apologize for demanding anyone that immigrates to my country do so legally, that they assimilate and become American, and support America above all else in this world. That they do not come here and get on welfare or drain the system or become a burden on society.
Americans of the Muslim faith deserve and should have the same rights and respect of all Americans, but not as Muslims (or anyone else) demanding to live in a separate "mini countries" under differing civil and criminal laws within the overall nation. And I have zero tolerance for those wanting to overthrow the system or dragging in problems from their homelands.
See Should Muslim Immigration be halted?
I'm told "Sharia" law comes in all kinds of forms, etc. I don't care because there is one law in America, it's American law equally and impartially enforced with due process and civil rights protections. That makes us equal and protects everyone and ends the confusion and chaos our legal system has become. We need to get back to that. My anger is not at the illegal alien that after all is doing something I'd do myself if under the same circumstances, but the government that refuses to enforce our laws creating chaos and crime on our streets.
In my view Islam is locked into an internal struggle just as Christianity was during the Protestant Reformation. We have extremes from the near atheism of Karmelism in Turkey to fundamentalist extremism such as in Saudi Arabia (Wahhabism) and Shia fanaticism in Iran. This is in addition to ethnic conflicts, conflict with non-Muslims in border states, and endless outside meddling.
I can't speak for Muslims, but I believe something in between is best. The reader should note as well that many terrorist acts committed by Arabs for example are just as likely to be Christians, atheists, fascists, or communist sympathizers and have nothing to do with Islam at all.
In the theological sense Deists, Unitarians, Jews, Christians, and Muslims worship the same God. Thus I believe in Allah/God, but reject Mohammad. I like Hindus, but reject Hinduism as my belief. It is several practices in Muslim culture that I reject and would reject them with Christians, Jews, or anyone else.
The worse problems I see for Muslims is how to separate what's considered the many unacceptable and primitive practices. Hashem Aghajari argues there's traditional Islam versus core Islam. It's about cultural issues, not Islam in itself. Rioting and killing over cartoons? Rioting and killing over comments by the Pope that only proved him right? I will not tolerate it. Where's the open Muslim opposition to this behavior?
I posted the Danish Cartoons on this website and will continue to do so. That is not out of hatred or disrespect to Muslims, but to assert freedom of speech. I don't consider them offensive to Muslims and find the reaction to them irrational. We have far too many lies and too much censorship under political correctness and that is the real reason I posted those cartoons, and they will stay. And I will continue to defy political correctness.
And I'll say it again that this modern terrorism of attacking civilians, homicide bombings, etc. are not from Islam or the Koran, but adopted from Nazis and communists in the west. This kind of radicalism has been brought into Islamic culture from Muslims in contact with places like western universities, or exported from Europe. It hurts the image of Islam and I can't understand why Muslims are silent on this.
Here is a quote from a supporter of leftist Professor Esposito:
Do not call them suicide bombers, call them shuhada [martyrs] as they have not escaped the miseries of life. They gave their life. Life is sacred, but some things like truth and justice are more sacred than life. They are not desperate, they are hopefuls...we have the human bomb. We love death, they (meaning us) love life.
That is not from the Koran and does not serve Islam. It's not Islam that's the problem, but Westerners like Esposito and those that follow them from our universities. It's about time true Muslims realize this too and openly renounce it. Why would a real believer in Allah even talk to an atheist like this man? It hurts the image of Islam and I can't understand why Muslims are silent on this.
Where's the Muslims in denouncing this? How many Christians, Jews, or Hindus engage in this? This death toll was five girls at a shopping mall. Who is doing the "hating" here?
I'm told I need more "balance" on this website. Just how many Christian and Hindu suicide bombers can I list on this website? I don't know of any to list. No I will not post one atrocity in the name of Islam next to another atrocity by someone else on a "one to one" basis to be "fair.". If I have 60 Muslim/Arab terrorist attacks and one Jewish terrorist attack, I'll post all 61 to maintain proportion. One to one is political correctness and I will not engage in PC lies.
Right now the ratio is about over 1000s to 1 because that's the facts. Don't give me Kahani Chai because one lone individual, after seeing a friend murdered by Arabs, shot up a Mosque in Hebron. Yes it was wrong he did it and died for it, end of story. They have never been convicted of any terrorist act I can find, but were declared a terrorist group by Israel for political reasons. How many schools, public busses, or subways have they bombed? Send me the reports and I'll list them.
They claim to be committing this in the name of Islam. I see no credible effort by Muslims to condemn it. I'm forced to believe as I do. Is every Muslims like this? Did I say that?
Enough on this. I brought up issues such as the Jizyah tax imposed on non-Muslims, yet no Muslim will answer my questions on what is nothing less than extortion. That's a fair question, why will they not address it? It's in the Koran, why is it hating Muslims to bring it up? I support the Iranian people against their terrible leaders and support an independant Kurdish state. They are Muslims too!
To my Muslim brother/sister that left this message, I hope you and I both, Deist and Muslim, stand before our Creator, and God judges us both well. Peace be upon you, Allah, and His Prophet.
Here is a Muslim I'm proud to call a brother and proof America and Islam can grow together.
Was Mohammad a pedophile?
One of the favorite attacks on Mohammad was his marriage to Aisha (the daughter of his friend and 1st Caliph Abu Bakr) at six years old, he "consummated" this marriage when she was nine years old. Other complaints was his practice of polygamy, having nine or more wives, two or more concubines, etc. So was Mohammed a sex-craved pedophile?
Let's consider the fact that St. Augustine, the father of Protestantism, the main influence of Martin Luther and John Calvin, in his 40's was engaged to marry a ten year old until he went to celibacy. Let's consider Jews in Persia, etc. along with pagan Arabs, others also practiced polygamy. What about the Mormons?
Mohammed ordered the expulsion and massacre of the Jews of Medina and ordered the attack and enslavement of the Jews of Khayber. He murdered hundreds of men by beheading in the process. He robbed caravans and committed other criminal acts. That's historical fact even Muslims can't dispute, but believe it's OK because Mohammed did it. That leads to the next problem of excusing violence if they can justify with Mohammed. When Crusaders captured Jerusalem, they murdered every Jew and Muslim, man, women and child. At least Mohammed spared the women and children, either though many ended up raped. (That is forced to marry Muslims.)
Yes Muslims practiced slavery and murdered Jews. Christians also practiced slavery and murdered Jews. (Spare me the excuses trying to justify it.) Jews also practiced slavery, but often converted their slaves to Judaism and freed them. Christians made that a death penalty. Muslims murdered heretics and still do so today; Christians did the same up until about 300 years ago. Europeans (Nazis, communists) have murdered millions of heretics in the 20th century, we call them political prisoners. They are all murders to me and I will say so. I'll use the terms murderer or terrorist, not militant as the left-wing press does.
One won't find as far as I remember anything on this website (or at least I wrote) calling Mohammed a pedophile, but you will find the information on St. Augustine, I didn't call him a pedophile either. Do Muslims force girls into arranged marriages and beat and kill their wives and daughters? Yes they do and in most Muslim countries they often get away with it. That is fact. But other backward societies do the very same thing. Some Americans today beat their wife, rape their daughters or even kill them. The vast majority don't, the vast majority of Muslims don't either.
So my offer remains open to everyone: prove anything factually wrong and I'll remove it. I will not play political correctness. Just the facts please, but I will consider changing the tone perhaps. I do not alter or edit the writings of others.
"We don't need mediators between man and God." Hashem Aghajari
The Fight for Democracy in Iran and a salute to heroes.
SUFISM: The Deviated Path This is an article from an Australian Islamic magazine attacking Sufism for its tolerance of other beliefs. This is also a good look at how many Wahhabi Muslims think.
Why Sharia Law Must Go
Mohammad did not write the Koran, but it was assembled by his followers a few years later. There were several versions, etc. Same old story with the Christian Bible. Because there's a good chance a majority of it is from Mohammad, but these Hadiths and Sunnahs comprise most Sharia or Muslim Law as I understand it. This is nothing but the opinions of "scholars" centuries later based on hearsay and legend written around the 9th Century. Oddly most of it is patterned after Christian laws as they existed in countries overrun by Islam.
- Human rights in Islam are firmly rooted in the belief that God, and God alone, is the Law Giver and the Source of all human rights. Due to their Divine origin, no ruler, government, assembly or authority can curtail or violate in any way the human rights conferred by God, nor can they be surrendered. Guess who decides what that is?
- "the term 'Law' denotes the Shari'ah, i.e. the totality of ordinances derived from the Qur'an and the Sunnah and any other laws that are deduced from these two sources by methods considered valid in Islamic jurisprudence." Thus it only applies to Muslims while non-Muslims are exterminated or pay the extortion tax.
- "The Universal Islamic Declaration of Human Rights is based on the Qur'an and the Sunnah and has been compiled by eminent Muslim scholars, jurists and representatives of Islamic movements and thought." Thus a group of evil men get to dictate just what "God" means to say. Even a Muslim is not allowed to interpret it as they see it.
- Rights of Non-Muslims in an Islamic State
- Radical Islamists Must Be Stopped by Lewis Loflin
- Pied Pipers of Islamic Terrorism by Lewis Loflin
- Islam Versus Judaism and Christianity
Abuse and Subjugation of Women
Besides intolerance of other beliefs and lack of religious freedom under Sharia Law, the Koran advocates the beating of women and steel-fisted control by their husbands, etc. Deists and Unitarians find this kind of primitive brutality unacceptable. It isn't just some cultural relativism issues the political Left ignores. In an article Clothes Aren't the Issue in the Washington Post (October 22, 2006) I quote the following,
When dealing with a "disobedient wife," a Muslim man has a number of options. First, he should remind her of "the importance of following the instructions of the husband in Islam." If that doesn't work, he can "leave the wife's bed." Finally, he may "beat" her, though it must be without "hurting, breaking a bone, leaving blue or black marks on the body and avoiding hitting the face, at any cost."
Such appalling recommendations, drawn from the book "Woman in the Shade of Islam" by Saudi scholar Abdul Rahman al-Sheha, are inspired by as authoritative a source as any Muslim could hope to find: a literal reading of the 34th verse of the fourth chapter of the Koran, An-Nisa , or Women. "[A]nd (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them," reads one widely accepted translation. The notion of using physical punishment as a "disciplinary action," as Sheha suggests, especially for "controlling or mastering women" or others who "enjoy being beaten," is common throughout the Muslim world.
In fairness, let's see what the Koran 4:34 has to say:
YUSUFALI: Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).
PICKTHAL: Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.
SHAKIR: Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.
It's obvious the above English translations are trying to cover up this revolting issue. At www.free-minds.org I quote the following that they admit the beating of wives is widespread:
In some parts of the Middle East and other areas of the Muslim world, a woman may be beaten severely by her husband or male relatives for something as ridiculous as not having dinner prepared on time. It is a common theme amongst some male Muslims to beat their women whenever they think it is deserved and they can rest assured that the entire Islamic Scholars will be right behind them for support. Although this may sound bizarre, the Muslim Scholars have told people that God has ordained in His holy book that women may be beaten if their male counter-part is not pleased with them...
They go on to explain this is due to a misunderstanding of the Holy Koran. At www.submission.org they quote the passage as [4:34] The men are made responsible for the women, and GOD has endowed them with certain qualities, and made them the bread earners. The righteous women will cheerfully accept this arrangement, since it is GOD's commandment, and honor their husbands during their absence. If you experience rebellion from the women, you shall first talk to them, then deserting them in bed, then you may beat them. If they obey you, you are not permitted to transgress against them. GOD is Most High, Supreme.
But they did admit the following (below) while widespread in Islam, are not in the Holy Koran, but in the Sunna and Hadith, are tribal in origin or predate the Koran. In fairness, some/most of these practices also exist in other primitive non-Muslim societies. Here is a list form www.submission.org:
(1)Muslim women have to wear the veil.
(2) Islam encourages wife beating.
(3) The woman inherits only half what a man can inherit.
(4)The woman's testimony is equal only to half of the man's testimony.
(5)Muslim woman cannot have jobs outside their homes.
(6)Polygamy is strongly recommended.
(7)Men status is higher than that of the women. (Goes into the Eve problem and Christians)
(8) Muslim Women cannot have education.
(9)Women cannot share in the political life in their communities.
(10)Women cannot pray, fast, do Hajj or Ummrah during menstruation.
(11)Women are stoned to death for Adultery.
(12)Muslim women cannot marry Jewish or Christian men.
(13)Muslim women do not have the right to divorce their husbands.
(14)Compensation for the murder of a woman is half the going rate for men.
(15)For a woman to prove rape, four adult males of "impeccable" character must witness the incident.
(16)The legal age for girls to marry tends to be very young.
(17)Female circumcision, also called female genital mutilation.
(18) Muslim women are not allowed to drive.
(19) Typically, fathers win custody of boys over the age of six and girls after the onset of puberty.
(20) Women must be segregated form men in public, work and places of worship.
(21) "honor killings" of women: Murders by husbands or male relatives of women suspected of disobedience, usually a sexual indiscretion or marriage against the family's wishes.
(22) "Morality Police" keeps control on the behaviour of women.
(23) Women cannot travel freely except in the company of a male relative, "mahram."
Muslims have disproportionately high rates of antisocial behavior, conduct disorder and violence. Because these deadly incidents are hidden under the guise of religion, little has been done to address the deviance-amplifying nature of Islamic Jihadi teachings...